According to many rumors sites and alot of anonymous sources of mine, the Jones trade appears to be"in the works". The rumor sites have just speculated that Jones trade is coming soon but according to many of my readers and sources there is a trade that is "close to be completed." The trade is said to be involving Jones and another player. The team is not mentioned in any of my emails that I received but my speculation is Jones and Eyre( the other player) will be traded to the White Sox for relief help( possibly a combination of these players- Mike MacDougal,David Aardsma, or Oneli Perez) There is also a rumor that Brian Anderson could be in the deal too but im not buying it.
The reason I am putting this "unfound rumor" on my site is because it makes logical sense to me. Jones who didn't play at all today, not to pinch run, hit, or defensive substitution. The players they decided to pinch run and hit are Koyie Hill, Angel Pagan, and Ward. So in my head I think they are holding Jones out because you don't want your trading chip hurt right before a trade is made.
Jones has fallen out of favor with the Cubs fans, teammates, and management and I think he will be in a different uniform within the next 48 hours.
Saturday, June 23, 2007
Thursday, June 21, 2007
Jones drawing intrest? Cubs looking for lefty in middle of lineup?
Thanks to Mlbtraderumors-
Rangers Interested In Jacque Jones
This is unexpected. Apparently the Texas Rangers have discussed a for right fielder Jacque Jones with the Cubs.
Jones makes $4MM this year and $5MM in '08, so at first glance it's perplexing that a team like Texas would want him. There are two scenarios I can see. Maybe the Rangers are working on a larger deal and Jones helps fill some other club's need. Or, maybe the Rangers like Jones at $5MM for 2008 and think he could be a useful part of next year's club. Regardless, I don't expect Jim Hendry to get much in return for Jones. Gordon Wittenmyer of the Chicago Sun-Times mentions that the Cubs are in talks with several other teams about Jones as well.
Wittenmyer also mentions that the Cubs would like to acquire a middle-of-the-order left-handed hitter. He specifically names Ken Griffey Jr., who surfaced in a rumor a few days ago. Wittenmyer mentions that Griffey is owed $6.5MM in 2007 and 2008 with a team option for 2009. That's not exactly true, as Griffey actually makes $12.5MM but with a lot deferred. According to Cot's Baseball Contracts, that makes the present day value of the contract something like $9-10MM. And don't forget the $4MM buyout for '09 and possible compensation for waiving the no-trade clause. According to Wittenmeyer, Griffey has told friends he'd welcome a move to Chicago.
On my first draft of this post, I had a hard time identifying other lefty sluggers the Cubs could acquire. Somehow I missed the obvious one, which is Adam Dunn. Such an acquisition would require creativity, such as moving Alfonso Soriano to right field. But Dunn is definitely someone the Cubs should consider if in need of a lefty slugger.
Getting Griffey would be great but he will cost to much in my opinion( pry Gallagher, Pie, Murton, Veal, or Epat) and I don't see them trading within the division and I would love to see Floyd play everyday RF. If the cubbies want a decent OF with power and could be valuable off the bench would be Milton Bradley( who was DFA today) he was hitting .292 with 2 homers and 7 rbi in just 19 games. He is injury pron but is a better option than Jones and Pagan in the outfield and could spell Floyd and Pie when needed.
I'm glad that the Cubs are actually going to get rid of Jones. He needs to go! PERIOD!
Rangers Interested In Jacque Jones
This is unexpected. Apparently the Texas Rangers have discussed a for right fielder Jacque Jones with the Cubs.
Jones makes $4MM this year and $5MM in '08, so at first glance it's perplexing that a team like Texas would want him. There are two scenarios I can see. Maybe the Rangers are working on a larger deal and Jones helps fill some other club's need. Or, maybe the Rangers like Jones at $5MM for 2008 and think he could be a useful part of next year's club. Regardless, I don't expect Jim Hendry to get much in return for Jones. Gordon Wittenmyer of the Chicago Sun-Times mentions that the Cubs are in talks with several other teams about Jones as well.
Wittenmyer also mentions that the Cubs would like to acquire a middle-of-the-order left-handed hitter. He specifically names Ken Griffey Jr., who surfaced in a rumor a few days ago. Wittenmyer mentions that Griffey is owed $6.5MM in 2007 and 2008 with a team option for 2009. That's not exactly true, as Griffey actually makes $12.5MM but with a lot deferred. According to Cot's Baseball Contracts, that makes the present day value of the contract something like $9-10MM. And don't forget the $4MM buyout for '09 and possible compensation for waiving the no-trade clause. According to Wittenmeyer, Griffey has told friends he'd welcome a move to Chicago.
On my first draft of this post, I had a hard time identifying other lefty sluggers the Cubs could acquire. Somehow I missed the obvious one, which is Adam Dunn. Such an acquisition would require creativity, such as moving Alfonso Soriano to right field. But Dunn is definitely someone the Cubs should consider if in need of a lefty slugger.
Getting Griffey would be great but he will cost to much in my opinion( pry Gallagher, Pie, Murton, Veal, or Epat) and I don't see them trading within the division and I would love to see Floyd play everyday RF. If the cubbies want a decent OF with power and could be valuable off the bench would be Milton Bradley( who was DFA today) he was hitting .292 with 2 homers and 7 rbi in just 19 games. He is injury pron but is a better option than Jones and Pagan in the outfield and could spell Floyd and Pie when needed.
I'm glad that the Cubs are actually going to get rid of Jones. He needs to go! PERIOD!
Wednesday, June 20, 2007
Barrett traded to Pads.
Thanks to MLBTRADERUMORS-
According to Buster Olney, Michael Barrett has just been traded to the Padres. The Padres will also receive cash in the deal. Ken Rosenthal believes the amount of cash is greater than $1MM, since it needs approval from the commissioner's office. In return, the Cubs received backup catcher Rob Bowen and a young outfielder named Kyler Burke.
Burke, 19, was drafted 35th overall out of high school last year based on his huge power potential and athleticism. He hasn't shown anything against pro pitching yet. Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus says Burke has an "enormous ceiling" with a strong right field arm. This is an upside play by Jim Hendry - Burke could be a star or a complete bust.
Bowen will provide the Cubs a mostly defensive-minded backstop, although that's what they have already. He was once seen as a future starter as a Twins minor leaguer, but his bat never panned out. Bowen has teamed up with Henry Blanco before, when both were Twins. Bowen was a waiver claim for his last two teams, so that gives you an idea of his value. On the plus side, he's speedy for a catcher and a switch-hitter.
The Padres, meanwhile, are looking to bolster their offense in the present and Barrett should be able to help despite his poor start to 2007. I'm not too worried about chemistry issues despite Barrett's recent incidents. Barrett is reunited with Greg Maddux, who he caught from 2004-06. Barrett is a free agent after the season.
Jim Hendry and Kevin Towers matched up last year, as the Cubs dumped off veterans Scott Williamson and Todd Walker to San Diego for some arms.
According to Buster Olney, Michael Barrett has just been traded to the Padres. The Padres will also receive cash in the deal. Ken Rosenthal believes the amount of cash is greater than $1MM, since it needs approval from the commissioner's office. In return, the Cubs received backup catcher Rob Bowen and a young outfielder named Kyler Burke.
Burke, 19, was drafted 35th overall out of high school last year based on his huge power potential and athleticism. He hasn't shown anything against pro pitching yet. Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus says Burke has an "enormous ceiling" with a strong right field arm. This is an upside play by Jim Hendry - Burke could be a star or a complete bust.
Bowen will provide the Cubs a mostly defensive-minded backstop, although that's what they have already. He was once seen as a future starter as a Twins minor leaguer, but his bat never panned out. Bowen has teamed up with Henry Blanco before, when both were Twins. Bowen was a waiver claim for his last two teams, so that gives you an idea of his value. On the plus side, he's speedy for a catcher and a switch-hitter.
The Padres, meanwhile, are looking to bolster their offense in the present and Barrett should be able to help despite his poor start to 2007. I'm not too worried about chemistry issues despite Barrett's recent incidents. Barrett is reunited with Greg Maddux, who he caught from 2004-06. Barrett is a free agent after the season.
Jim Hendry and Kevin Towers matched up last year, as the Cubs dumped off veterans Scott Williamson and Todd Walker to San Diego for some arms.
This is a very good trade. Bowen is a very good catcher, has speed and a ok bat. He is only 26 years old, he is a switch hitter who smashed rightys( hitting .350). He is currently batting .268 with 2 homers and 11rbis in 30 games. He is expected to be at the game tonight but not expected to catch.
I want to say thanks to Barrett, up until this year he has been a great guy and a cub I will always remember. Goodbye Barrett and good luck!
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Tuesday, June 19, 2007
CUBS-REDS RUMOR.
Intresting rumor on MLBTRADERUMORS-
There's a Cubs-Reds rumor making the rounds, reportedly one that originated on The Score here in Chicago. Obviously I can't catch all the radio rumors myself, so I rely on listeners to pass these along. Since these rumors often spread like a game of telephone, consider this one dubious until confirmed.
The rumor hitting my inbox repeatedly: the Cubs could send Sean Marshall and Jacque Jones to the Reds for Ken Griffey Jr. Keep in mind, this one isn't even confirmed as a legitimate rumor.
Whether or not this rumor has any legitimacy, let's discuss. In Marshall I see a strong left-handed starter under the team's control through 2011. He's improved his repertoire and should be a cog in the Cubs' rotation for years. In other words, very valuable.
Griffey is in the midst of another resurgence, but is at significant risk of injury at any given moment. There's a chance playing right field reduces that, but I wouldn't bank on it. Griffey makes $12.5MM annually through 2008, plus he'll be owed a $4MM buyout for 2009. When I began writing this I thought Junior's contract was a lot worse. It's really not terrible and would be somewhat offset by Jacque Jones. I can see Griffey approving a trade to Chicago, though he could ask for his contract to be guaranteed through '09.
I can see how one could consider this trade fair. I wouldn't trade Marshall for the risk of Griffey, but it doesn't sound absurd. I still don't see it happening - why would the Cubs take a hit in the rotation to add more offense? The Cubs have a strong rotation and will need Marshall over the next several seasons. It seems more logical for the Cubs to add a reliever.
Meanwhile, CubDumb reports that the Cubs are actively shopping Michael Barrett right now. While this might aid the pitching staff, it would likely weaken the offense.
There's a Cubs-Reds rumor making the rounds, reportedly one that originated on The Score here in Chicago. Obviously I can't catch all the radio rumors myself, so I rely on listeners to pass these along. Since these rumors often spread like a game of telephone, consider this one dubious until confirmed.
The rumor hitting my inbox repeatedly: the Cubs could send Sean Marshall and Jacque Jones to the Reds for Ken Griffey Jr. Keep in mind, this one isn't even confirmed as a legitimate rumor.
Whether or not this rumor has any legitimacy, let's discuss. In Marshall I see a strong left-handed starter under the team's control through 2011. He's improved his repertoire and should be a cog in the Cubs' rotation for years. In other words, very valuable.
Griffey is in the midst of another resurgence, but is at significant risk of injury at any given moment. There's a chance playing right field reduces that, but I wouldn't bank on it. Griffey makes $12.5MM annually through 2008, plus he'll be owed a $4MM buyout for 2009. When I began writing this I thought Junior's contract was a lot worse. It's really not terrible and would be somewhat offset by Jacque Jones. I can see Griffey approving a trade to Chicago, though he could ask for his contract to be guaranteed through '09.
I can see how one could consider this trade fair. I wouldn't trade Marshall for the risk of Griffey, but it doesn't sound absurd. I still don't see it happening - why would the Cubs take a hit in the rotation to add more offense? The Cubs have a strong rotation and will need Marshall over the next several seasons. It seems more logical for the Cubs to add a reliever.
Meanwhile, CubDumb reports that the Cubs are actively shopping Michael Barrett right now. While this might aid the pitching staff, it would likely weaken the offense.
Monday, June 18, 2007
Suspensions handed out. Gagne coming?
Thanks to Cubs.com-
CHICAGO -- Major League Baseball suspended both Cubs first baseman Derrek Lee and San Diego pitcher Chris Young five games for their actions in Saturday's scuffle at Wrigley Field.
Both also were fined undisclosed amounts for their conduct during the incident. The announcement was made Monday by Bob Watson, vice president of on-field operations for Major League Baseball.
A Cubs spokesperson said Lee was appealing the penalty.
Both suspensions were to begin Tuesday, when the Cubs play at Texas and the Padres play host to the Baltimore Orioles.
Cubs hitting coach Gerald Perry received a three-game suspension and undisclosed fine for his "aggressive actions" during the incident. His suspension will begin Tuesday.
In addition, Padres players Brian Giles and Jake Peavy received undisclosed fines for their roles.
Lee was upset at a pitch that Young threw in the fourth inning Saturday that was high and close to his head. It nicked his left hand. As Lee walked to first, he said something to Young, and the pitcher responded. Lee didn't like Young's comment, and took a swing. Young swung, too, and neither landed a punch but both benches emptied and play was delayed several minutes.
"We had some dialogue, but that's between us," Lee said Saturday. "I don't get upset too often, but I don't like when a ball is thrown at my head. It was thrown right at my head."
Perry wasn't sure why he was tossed. Peavy had jumped on Lee's back, and Perry was trying to pull the Padres pitcher off the first baseman.
"I was as shocked as anybody that I was thrown out of the game," Perry said Saturday.
The Cubs were traveling to Texas on Monday, and unavailable for comment on the penalties.
Thanks to MLBRUMORS-
Lou Piniella urged General Manager Jim Hendry to go after the best players available during last off season; Well now, he is doing it again. Although the bullpen has been doing okay as of late, Piniella would love to add another solid arm to take some stress off the older guys. He is eying Eric Gagne, and the Front Office is considering to make a move on it. Gagne is doing well since coming off the Disabled List, and would fit nicely as a possible closer if they decide to move Dempster. A trade for Gagne would probably cost at least two prospects, maybe three. The negotiations aren't anywhere as of yet, so it is hard to gauge what the Rangers asking price will be.
CHICAGO -- Major League Baseball suspended both Cubs first baseman Derrek Lee and San Diego pitcher Chris Young five games for their actions in Saturday's scuffle at Wrigley Field.
Both also were fined undisclosed amounts for their conduct during the incident. The announcement was made Monday by Bob Watson, vice president of on-field operations for Major League Baseball.
A Cubs spokesperson said Lee was appealing the penalty.
Both suspensions were to begin Tuesday, when the Cubs play at Texas and the Padres play host to the Baltimore Orioles.
Cubs hitting coach Gerald Perry received a three-game suspension and undisclosed fine for his "aggressive actions" during the incident. His suspension will begin Tuesday.
In addition, Padres players Brian Giles and Jake Peavy received undisclosed fines for their roles.
Lee was upset at a pitch that Young threw in the fourth inning Saturday that was high and close to his head. It nicked his left hand. As Lee walked to first, he said something to Young, and the pitcher responded. Lee didn't like Young's comment, and took a swing. Young swung, too, and neither landed a punch but both benches emptied and play was delayed several minutes.
"We had some dialogue, but that's between us," Lee said Saturday. "I don't get upset too often, but I don't like when a ball is thrown at my head. It was thrown right at my head."
Perry wasn't sure why he was tossed. Peavy had jumped on Lee's back, and Perry was trying to pull the Padres pitcher off the first baseman.
"I was as shocked as anybody that I was thrown out of the game," Perry said Saturday.
The Cubs were traveling to Texas on Monday, and unavailable for comment on the penalties.
Thanks to MLBRUMORS-
Lou Piniella urged General Manager Jim Hendry to go after the best players available during last off season; Well now, he is doing it again. Although the bullpen has been doing okay as of late, Piniella would love to add another solid arm to take some stress off the older guys. He is eying Eric Gagne, and the Front Office is considering to make a move on it. Gagne is doing well since coming off the Disabled List, and would fit nicely as a possible closer if they decide to move Dempster. A trade for Gagne would probably cost at least two prospects, maybe three. The negotiations aren't anywhere as of yet, so it is hard to gauge what the Rangers asking price will be.
Sunday, June 17, 2007
Barrett to Flordia or Rox?
Thanks to MLB RUMORS-
With Koyie Hill helping Carlos Zambrano take a no-hitter into the eighth inning, along with several other strong performances, it made lead to the quick departure of Michael Barrett, a strong offensive catcher who lacks good defense. Not only that, but Lou Piniella prefers a solid defensive catcher or an offensive one, but that might change when they see how the team fairs without Lee and Ramirez for a couple days. The Rockies lack a good catcher with Chris Iannetta becoming a bust, and they would be smart to bring in Barrett, who could hit 20+ homeruns in Colorado. Although his homerun average would probably stay the same in Florida, the Marlins are also interested and have had scouts at a few Cubs games.
I can honestly say that Barrett could be on his way out of Wrigley. I would be really shocked if he is with the team past the deadline. The Rox would be a perfect place for Barrett. With the homerun park and lack of media presence he should do very well there. The same with Flordia even tho Olivio isn't doing that bad a job for them.
The Rox have several interesting players that you could trade for like-
The Cubs need bullpen so here are some good guys to fill the roll-
Jeremy Affeldt- Trade them straight across
Tom Martin- a very solid lefty which looks like we need
Matt Herges- Not a bad guy solid in AAA, and veteran.
Ryan Speier- Good arm 2.52 era in 25 games in AAA
As for the Marlins-
Renyel Pinto- would really like to bring him back to the Cubs organization
Justin Miller- Solid righty would help the pen alot
Ross Wolf- Young righty who has a 3.34 era in AAA on 25 games
I honestly see the Cubs trading Barrett to the AL, Barrett would service well as a DH and a guy coming off the Bench to fill the role behind the plate. Why not send him to the Twins? Krubel and Cirrillo arnt doing to well and I think Barrett would do well as a Twin batting DH and backing up Mauer.
Barrett is a free agent after this year and his woes continue behind the plate and with teammates. I think it is time to say goodbye to Micheal Barrett.
With Koyie Hill helping Carlos Zambrano take a no-hitter into the eighth inning, along with several other strong performances, it made lead to the quick departure of Michael Barrett, a strong offensive catcher who lacks good defense. Not only that, but Lou Piniella prefers a solid defensive catcher or an offensive one, but that might change when they see how the team fairs without Lee and Ramirez for a couple days. The Rockies lack a good catcher with Chris Iannetta becoming a bust, and they would be smart to bring in Barrett, who could hit 20+ homeruns in Colorado. Although his homerun average would probably stay the same in Florida, the Marlins are also interested and have had scouts at a few Cubs games.
I can honestly say that Barrett could be on his way out of Wrigley. I would be really shocked if he is with the team past the deadline. The Rox would be a perfect place for Barrett. With the homerun park and lack of media presence he should do very well there. The same with Flordia even tho Olivio isn't doing that bad a job for them.
The Rox have several interesting players that you could trade for like-
The Cubs need bullpen so here are some good guys to fill the roll-
Jeremy Affeldt- Trade them straight across
Tom Martin- a very solid lefty which looks like we need
Matt Herges- Not a bad guy solid in AAA, and veteran.
Ryan Speier- Good arm 2.52 era in 25 games in AAA
As for the Marlins-
Renyel Pinto- would really like to bring him back to the Cubs organization
Justin Miller- Solid righty would help the pen alot
Ross Wolf- Young righty who has a 3.34 era in AAA on 25 games
I honestly see the Cubs trading Barrett to the AL, Barrett would service well as a DH and a guy coming off the Bench to fill the role behind the plate. Why not send him to the Twins? Krubel and Cirrillo arnt doing to well and I think Barrett would do well as a Twin batting DH and backing up Mauer.
Barrett is a free agent after this year and his woes continue behind the plate and with teammates. I think it is time to say goodbye to Micheal Barrett.
Lee and Young speak on fight, Soriano says he likes to celebrate and he is not going to stop!
Brawl aftermath:
By Paul SullivanTribune staff reporter
June 16, 2007, 10:36 PM CDT
The Cubs are feeling like human pincushions these days, and Alfonso Soriano says they're not going to take it anymore.
Soriano's moonwalk out of the batter's box Friday after his home run onto Waveland Avenue certainly irritated the Padres, though they insisted it did not prompt retaliation in the form of a Chris Young fastball that hit Derrek Lee on Saturday, igniting a brawl that's likely to lead to Lee's suspension.
"We're like a family here," Soriano said. "If they throw at somebody, we have to throw at somebody, too, because that's not fair."
Lee, Young, Padres pitcher Jake Peavy and Cubs hitting coach Gerald Perry were ejected for their roles in a brouhaha that began when Young hit Lee on the left hand with an up-and-in fastball leading off the fourth inning.
While Padres catcher Rob Bowen argued with plate umpire Mike Everitt, claiming it was a foul tip, Lee began jawing with Young on his way toward first. Young appeared to motion to Lee to just take his base before Lee charged and threw a wild punch at the pitcher, missing him.
Young missed Lee with a counterpunch, and the bench-clearing fight was on. Cubs manager Lou Piniella, who tumbled to the ground while trying to separate players, said he was unsure what would happen to Lee. Piniella said the league is "inconsistent" with its rulings.
"I hope nothing happens, but when there are fights, you probably have to expect something," Piniella said.
No one was hurt, and no one was saying what Young said to get Lee to react in such a manner.
"Whatever it was, he didn't like it very much," Piniella said.
Lee knows a suspension is likely but said he had to defend himself.
"I really don't mind getting hit," Lee said. "But when it's at my head, I feel like it threatens my health. I don't know what his intent was, but it was at my head, and he said some things I didn't like, and it just escalated."
Lee wouldn't say what Young said. Young wouldn't either, but he insisted he wasn't trying to hit Lee.
"I did not throw at him," Young said. "I did not try to hit him. I tried to pitch him inside, and maybe it got away from me."
Piniella wondered why the umpires let Lee walk over to Young without interceding after the two had begun jawing.
"It seemed like the umpires should've been on the field anticipating something," Piniella said. "There was plenty of time in between. But I'm not an umpire."
Crew chief Gerry Davis said: "The catcher didn't believe the pitch had hit him, so he was taking care of that argument. By the time that happened, you'll see [Everitt] rushed there as quickly as he could once he saw something was about to happen."
On Friday, Peavy and Padres left-hander David Wells had criticized Soriano for not "respecting the game" with his moonwalk.
"I didn't appreciate that," Peavy said. "Just play the game. If I think a player shows me up like that, I like the next guy to take one in the stinking ribs. That way, his teammate will let him know about it, [and he'll] tell him, 'Hey, you'd better run the bases.'
"Respect the game. That's the way it used to be. When you were growing up, did you see anybody act like that? Now it's accepted."
Piniella said beforehand that "I didn't even know he backpedaled" on the homer.
"I liked the home run, put it that way," Piniella said.
Meanwhile, Padres manager Bud Black took the fifth on the moonwalk.
"I did get to see it on replay, and I did get to see it live," Black replied. "I have no thoughts on that. Some things are better left unsaid."
Soriano said he wasn't trying to "embarrass" anyone and rationalized that many players celebrate, including pitchers.
"I've been doing that for six years in the league, so why do I have to change?" he said. "I'm not trying to show up anybody or offend anybody. A lot of pitchers, when they strike out somebody, they do a lot of things on the mound. So it's not only me. That's part of the game."
God I love Soriano, Lou and Lee. This article shows that the Cubs and there Manager are not going to take shit anymore! Its nice to see the Cubbies this fiery team who is sick of other teams walking on them.
The point of Lee and Young not saying anything on the incident is smart because there is a good chance by not saying what transpired or making a huge deal out of the situation, the suspension will be less for both clubs. Because the Cubs don't need Lee suspended for a long time and the Pads don't need Peavy and Young out for a start in that difficult western division.
Lets hope there is a good game today with Maddog on the mound.
By Paul SullivanTribune staff reporter
June 16, 2007, 10:36 PM CDT
The Cubs are feeling like human pincushions these days, and Alfonso Soriano says they're not going to take it anymore.
Soriano's moonwalk out of the batter's box Friday after his home run onto Waveland Avenue certainly irritated the Padres, though they insisted it did not prompt retaliation in the form of a Chris Young fastball that hit Derrek Lee on Saturday, igniting a brawl that's likely to lead to Lee's suspension.
"We're like a family here," Soriano said. "If they throw at somebody, we have to throw at somebody, too, because that's not fair."
Lee, Young, Padres pitcher Jake Peavy and Cubs hitting coach Gerald Perry were ejected for their roles in a brouhaha that began when Young hit Lee on the left hand with an up-and-in fastball leading off the fourth inning.
While Padres catcher Rob Bowen argued with plate umpire Mike Everitt, claiming it was a foul tip, Lee began jawing with Young on his way toward first. Young appeared to motion to Lee to just take his base before Lee charged and threw a wild punch at the pitcher, missing him.
Young missed Lee with a counterpunch, and the bench-clearing fight was on. Cubs manager Lou Piniella, who tumbled to the ground while trying to separate players, said he was unsure what would happen to Lee. Piniella said the league is "inconsistent" with its rulings.
"I hope nothing happens, but when there are fights, you probably have to expect something," Piniella said.
No one was hurt, and no one was saying what Young said to get Lee to react in such a manner.
"Whatever it was, he didn't like it very much," Piniella said.
Lee knows a suspension is likely but said he had to defend himself.
"I really don't mind getting hit," Lee said. "But when it's at my head, I feel like it threatens my health. I don't know what his intent was, but it was at my head, and he said some things I didn't like, and it just escalated."
Lee wouldn't say what Young said. Young wouldn't either, but he insisted he wasn't trying to hit Lee.
"I did not throw at him," Young said. "I did not try to hit him. I tried to pitch him inside, and maybe it got away from me."
Piniella wondered why the umpires let Lee walk over to Young without interceding after the two had begun jawing.
"It seemed like the umpires should've been on the field anticipating something," Piniella said. "There was plenty of time in between. But I'm not an umpire."
Crew chief Gerry Davis said: "The catcher didn't believe the pitch had hit him, so he was taking care of that argument. By the time that happened, you'll see [Everitt] rushed there as quickly as he could once he saw something was about to happen."
On Friday, Peavy and Padres left-hander David Wells had criticized Soriano for not "respecting the game" with his moonwalk.
"I didn't appreciate that," Peavy said. "Just play the game. If I think a player shows me up like that, I like the next guy to take one in the stinking ribs. That way, his teammate will let him know about it, [and he'll] tell him, 'Hey, you'd better run the bases.'
"Respect the game. That's the way it used to be. When you were growing up, did you see anybody act like that? Now it's accepted."
Piniella said beforehand that "I didn't even know he backpedaled" on the homer.
"I liked the home run, put it that way," Piniella said.
Meanwhile, Padres manager Bud Black took the fifth on the moonwalk.
"I did get to see it on replay, and I did get to see it live," Black replied. "I have no thoughts on that. Some things are better left unsaid."
Soriano said he wasn't trying to "embarrass" anyone and rationalized that many players celebrate, including pitchers.
"I've been doing that for six years in the league, so why do I have to change?" he said. "I'm not trying to show up anybody or offend anybody. A lot of pitchers, when they strike out somebody, they do a lot of things on the mound. So it's not only me. That's part of the game."
God I love Soriano, Lou and Lee. This article shows that the Cubs and there Manager are not going to take shit anymore! Its nice to see the Cubbies this fiery team who is sick of other teams walking on them.
The point of Lee and Young not saying anything on the incident is smart because there is a good chance by not saying what transpired or making a huge deal out of the situation, the suspension will be less for both clubs. Because the Cubs don't need Lee suspended for a long time and the Pads don't need Peavy and Young out for a start in that difficult western division.
Lets hope there is a good game today with Maddog on the mound.
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